A small glitch...

A small hiccup, the boys at the scooter shop and I got our wires crossed a tad, I was asking for a hub assembly but got the hub in the mail instead so i have sent it back awaiting to see what they can find for me. In the meantime I have a few more jobs to go ahead with, been working too hard to get the cases done, hate it when life gets in the way of scooting! My other parts from GPS Imports arrived, just waiting for a couple of weird items now and will set off on the journey of reassembling. As I am not touching the paint work other than touch ups it shouldn't be too long before I can get her on the road.

A Special present for Sophia


I decided to give Sophia one special gift to make her rebirth complete and make her feel special ;)

I was very lucky to snag this plate! I must be the only fanatical SS owner in this state so far? :)

The new plate arrived today, I was hoping the blue would be the same as the scoot but not quite :(


Doesn't matter, she will look great with it on, we had to try it on for size...sort of.


Southern Right Whale in the bay




Portland, Victoria.




You often hear that Warrnambool is the place to go to see whales up close, they have a viewng platform at Logan's Beach so you can see the whales playing out in the ocean.




However...if you want to see whales up close, you should come to Portland. :)




The BIG Clean Up

Granny always said 'Patience is a Virtue'.

Granny didn't have an SS180 in the shed waiting to be ridden for the first time!!






I've been fairly busy with work so haven't done much with the SS over the last week or so. I have an order almost ready to go for the last of the parts and will get into the reassembly as soon as the cleaning is finished. Before I tackle that, there are some jobs to do on the cases.


One case stud bolt hole needs a weld up from the inside as it has made a small hole due to someone screwing it in a bit too far! Another job is the hole for the gear selector shaft plunger has at some stage been drilled out wider than it should be so will get that fixed too while I'm in there.

Here's the very basic steps left before I can ride Sophia for the first time.


  1. Fix the cases.
  2. Bead blast cases and all engine alloy bits
  3. Clean all the engine bits that can't be blasted.
  4. Reassemble engine after renewing all rubber buffers, gaskets, bearings and seals etc
  5. Put rear hub on with new brakes, put engine back in.
  6. Remove headset and front forks for inspection, renew bearings, seals, cables etc
  7. Reassemble headset and front end, renewing hub bearings and speedo drive, new brakes
  8. Wiring and timing checked (as per the pre-marked cases)
  9. Lube up as recommended in manual, greases, oils, fuels
  10. Last Safety check, inspect all nuts, bolts, cables, EVERYTHING!
  11. Start her up, tweak mixture and timing as needed
  12. Vroom Vroom.
  13. Check everything works and book a roadworthy test, rego and go!

**Fingers Crossed** I hope this is the way it all unfolds, stay tuned for more over the next week or so. It's deathly cold here at the moment so I'm avoiding shed work at night until my Pot Belly Stove is fixed. Wuss!! :)

Is this an SS180 crank?

This is my crank



It's not like the round ones shown in the parts books?





Does anyone know anything about this type of crank.


Is it better for performance etc to have the round design or the 'cut' design like the one I have?
Cheers
Sam
UPDATE: 7th July
Thanks to some help from a couple of fellow SS owners I have established the picture in the parts book is really a generic after market crank and the one I have is from an SS :)




Thanks to fellow SS180 owners


Although they are probably not aware of it, I have been lurking and learning from SS180 owners all over the world by reading their blogs and forum postings.


This is a specific thank you to Eric and Jeremy who have both got SS180's and decided to share their adventures when restoring. Follow the links to the right to see their projects.

I have also been able to follow some of Eric's advice to other SS owners on the Modern Vespa Forum, who are dealing with the same issues I am. It has all been very very useful and saved me loads of time and stress.


Thanks Guys, it's pages like yours that help put more Vespas back on the road.

Whew!




I've had time to go over the SS180 to see what is actually missing, broken or 'bastardised beyond recognition'.

The biggest issues so far have been the broken hub assembly, the missing air filter, bellows and speedo cable and seals. I am fairly relieved that I will get this job done for about $400 including parts as I will do most of it myself and have found everything I need. I won't be changing the paint for now, just happy to get another Vespa off the scrap pile and back on the road.

It's all about the cosmetic stuff now but I have a list of stuff that is missing that I will try to find.

Luckily I have a good friend who is an engineer and will make some of the sacrificial items for me like cotter pins, welsh plugs etc as well as weld up repairs for the case or repair holes with helicoils, making this journey a little less stressful. I know at anytime if I ever get stuck I can call him and he'll help me through it but I get a big kick out of doing as much as I can by myself.

GPS Imports to the rescue...again!

I had all but resigned myself to the fact that this project was over when I discovered this. IE: How hard would it be to find an SS180 front hub assembly in one piece because mine is in 2!

Just as I was disconnecting the front brake assembly I noticed some lumps under the paint work. I gave the brake backing plate a tap with a wooden mallet and a fine crack appeared, you can see it just below the spring here...



I started to pick and chip away at the bog to see what had been covered up.

Eeeek..
The front hub is cracked and joined by bog (not welded at all) and 2 little screws from the front side of the backing plate.




A quick call to GPS with fingers and toes crossed (and a quick word to the Vespa Gods) paid off.

Steve has a good looking 2nd had unit for $150, all he has to do is find it amongst his treasure trove of scooter goodies and I'm in business.


Ordered so far



2nd hand hub assy -$150

Carb seals -$10

Points set -$15

Gear change tube washer-$2

Air Filter -$27







Next Order I will need


  • Speedo cable and drive pinion
  • Engine Gaskets and Oil Seals
  • SKF Bearings from local shop or my shop stock

I will be beadblasting the cases and hubs myself using a mates set up, I expect this to make them look like new!

At the moment I am having my shed lined and potbelly stove flue fixed (it's bloody windy here in SW Vic!) and when that's done I'll be back out to scooter nights in the shed but for now It's just too damn cold at night.


I'll attack the case work and hubs next


The very First Warning Bells are sounding

I knew I would find some dodgey stuff as I went along, it's from Asia after all.

What I am banking on though, is that regardless of the crappy chrome and shiny paint, there is still a soul in this old scooter. I need the workings and frame to be OK, I don't really care about the little "fix-its" along the way, they go without saying as this scooter is 41 years old.


So, what did I find? ....Gulp....







The Seal is stuck in place with god knows what?? Haven't attacked this yet, I am currently about to beadblast my cases, hubs, flywheel and anything else I can find to make shiny :)




......Stay tuned....









The "rebirthing" of Sophia begins


How to bring an Asian Resto back to life



The old catch phrase that went hand in hand with Vespa, "From Rome, with Love" needs a modern update.


"From Asia-to rip you off (& with no regard for your safety what-so-ever!)"


The insidious invasion of Asian scooter restorations obviously equates to rising numbers of classic scooters sitting in sheds all over the world unable to be registered or ridden. This scourge on the classic scooter world is as detrimental to their history and tradition (IMHO) as it would be if it was written off or put in a car crusher. I have personally seen scooters that have been ‘restored to death’. It will cost more now to 'rebirth' the scooter than what it’s worth, in both time and money. This is very sad, as many are now just shiny ornaments as people hang on to them in a hope that one day they will be able to get it on the road.
I have seen this industry grow in an alarming rate over the past few years. I remember when I first went online looking for a classic scooter as a project and there were 3 scooters listed on Ebay for sale, one was in Vietnam and the other 2 were here in Australia. Recently when I did a search there were 18 classic Vespa scooters online and most were from Vietnam or low mileage classics for resale here. This means one thing to me. It’s dead and it can’t be fixed as reputable bike shops won’t touch them, don’t know enough about them or parts just can’t be found.
This scenario must play out every single day, all over the world. I hate to imagine the number of classic scooters that are dead, sitting in sheds and workshops worldwide never to be fixed because some little Asian workshop has sacrificed its soul and ‘restored’ it to death.




The Waiting Yard!


(waiting for your well earned dollars!)






During my many years of reading and research I discovered that these workshops are often set up and run by westerners who have seen the scooter boom coming and wanted to get in on the action. Many corners are cut to save money in what they describe as the “restoration process”. Commonly, lots of Bondo is used to make the scooter look like it’s just rolled off the assembly line.They have had a hard life in Asia, having been imported en masse in the 60’s and 70’s as a cheap means of transport. Clones of the Vespa Scooter were licenced to be made in India and Indonesia (and other parts of the world under different names) so after market parts are plentiful in the region. Asian parts are often ill fitting and seriously unattractive, but it is increasingly hard to find genuine parts or New Old Stock (NOS) these days so the market is flooded with cheap (and ugly! see pic below) repro’s.


Just about every scooter rider or enthusiast I know has a list of what they would like to own in the perfect scooterist world. My list had a GS160 on it as do most others.







I also resigned myself to the fact that I would probably never find one here but a girls got to dream.


So when I came across an SS180 online for sale and did some research I started to think I might still own a classic from the GS series style scooters.


One look at it told me it was an Asian import, one thing I initially always tried to steer clear of under any circumstances but I decided to check it out anyway. Over the last year or so I have really been thinking about the numbers of Vespas coming out of Asia that are now basically buggered because of it. That made me quite sad. Surely they can't all be bad? I started to think that I might be able to find one to bring 'back to life' and even up the ledger, so to speak. I kept an eye out online for what looked like a decent project.



I had some basic starting criteria for my search.


  • The scooter had to be here in Australia with paperwork

  • In running condition, no noisy engine, no noisy clutch or clunky gear change.

  • No metal fleck in the gear oil

  • No welds, joins or mega bogged sections

  • No bent fork

  • Matching case sides

  • Matching engine and frame numbers

  • As many original parts as possible.

I didn't care too much about the colour, the tyres, the cosmetics or all the vietchrome, all that can be fixed.

Can she be bought back from the brink? Who knows? What I do know is I will have enormous fun in the process and the end result will be very rewarding having saved another classic from the rust pile.


So, I fell for the colour right away as it’s my favourite blue and as we are both 1967 ‘SS’ models I thought that was a ‘sign’ that I should see what I could do to rebirth her. I was communicating with the son in law of the owner and established that it came from Bali and he bought 2 of them, one for him, one for his lady friend. They had them crated and bought back to Australia but sadly they split up not long after so his Vespa dream was never realised. He gave me a good report on the running order of the scooter and then we got down to business. I got it for a good price and had it transported over from Adelaide.
Sophia, as she’s been christened, arrived late on a freezing cold winter’s night but as soon as I saw her for the first time she made me smile.

As she is an Asian import, the very first thing that must be done is a complete systematic pull down. For anyone doing this, I can’t stress this enough. Do not trust anything, check every single nut, bolt, gasket, shim, cable, screw and bearing from the tip of the front wheel all the way to the number plate holder and everything in between.

So it's time to get the nails dirty again.

Just like last winter when I pulled Lola apart, I expect to find things that make me laugh, gasp with horror, scratch my head with curiosity and amazement and swear in Italian (so she understands me). I fully expect it to be loads of fun too. There is no feeling of desperation this time as there’s 2 ‘spare’ scooters parked in the shed for me to ride while Sophia is on the operating table.

I will be keeping track of all the weird and whacky stuff I find on this scooter as I systematically pull her apart one bolt at a time.

I will also be keeping a tally of what it costs in parts and labour for the job.

OK, here we go, strap yourself in!

First Step- Prepare the Operating theatre, get all the tools, books, light and warmth you'll need.




I recommend getting a few buckets and label them "Clean", "RIP", "Repair", "Reno", "Replace".

As you pull things apart, decide what you need to do with it, put the item into a zip lock bag and label it immediately. You can throw it in whatever bucket it needs to be in and deal with it later. If it's something I think I might lose track of mentally (or forget how it came apart) I'll add a highlight to the manual page for reference later or highlight the item on a photocopy of an 'exploded' parts diagram. So on the bag with all the front brake bits in it, I have written "PG 75" and have also made a note of all the bits that weren't there when pulling down.
There are often missing washers, grommets, bushes etc and all these can be replaced if you follow the parts diagram if you go and make notes at the same time.



















and then later, you can check the front end too